FFX and FFVII Linked?

[lokisenna]

their called 'easter eggs'?
references to previous games are common in all final fantasies
and thats just the beach from costa de sol....
if they were connected in the way you suggest then the 'weapons' of the planet(ruby,diamond,ultima,omega,ect.) would have gone after sin
plus summons arent exactly..well their nothing close to being aeons

[Luke]

How do you figure that they are nothing close to aeons?

Plus maybe FFVII is in the future and FFX is in the past and the weapons were born out of a fear of another sin?

ANd it is the beach from costa de sol but it looks exactly the same.

[Zenrot]

I guess now that you think about it certain beaches are hard to tell from one another. Anyways i wouldnt be pushing this past the "easter egg" portion if i wasn't sure I had seen this somewhere before.

[EbeneezerAl]

Originally Posted by Luke

How do you figure that they are nothing close to aeons?

Because they aren't. Aeon's are the souls of individuals willing given up from their bodies and encased in statues, called upon by the summoners for their power. It's a rather special procedure, and it takes a summoner to be able to summon them. The Aeon's choose to come for those individuals. Not everyone can do it.

In FFVII, their just random materia, no different than any other materia. A person, ANY person, uses the materia, and the effect that materia has will happen. In this case, it just happens to be in the form of a summon.

I'd call that a rather big difference, wouldn't you?

[Zenrot]

well, aeons are still pyreflies, they still consist of pyreflies. When pyreflies solidify they turn into spheres, which (in my connections at least) are materia. Kind of a random connection but well, you know.

[lokisenna]

zenrot you were right in your thinking
my japanese tutor was showing me her copies of FFX ultimania and FFVII ultimania

in interviews with the creators..well I was flipped upside down when she read it =p

they take place in the same universe but different planets, and according to nojima it would happen roughly 1000 years after FFX

shinra of the al-bhed(in FFX international/last mission) was trying to use the remains of vegnagun to siphon energy from the planet, after space travel was possible for these people they finally finished the technology on another planet and created 'shin-ra'(id like to state that space-traved was not accomplished in shinras lifetime but generations later)
on top of this nojima says that pyreflies anf the lifestream are of the same substence, he refers to spiras world energy as mako energy

also in FFVII dirge of cerberus and ffvii advent children
the ship cid uses called shera uses ancient technology he doesnt know how it works but it doesnt run on mako, its machina @_@

now I cant help but see sin as a 'the strongest weapon' in FFX lol
she translated a lot to me but these are what stuck in my head sooyeah...
the original pepople of the planet of ff7 are the ancients, everyone else is descendant of the people of spira(al-bhed's especially)

it really gets my head stirring >.>
id like to state also that while they are in the same universe, the planets can still function differently in how they use their lifestream

EDIT:

Because they aren't. Aeon's are the souls of individuals willing given up from their bodies and encased in statues, called upon by the summoners for their power. It's a rather special procedure, and it takes a summoner to be able to summon them. The Aeon's choose to come for those individuals. Not everyone can do it.

In FFVII, their just random materia, no different than any other materia. A person, ANY person, uses the materia, and the effect that materia has will happen. In this case, it just happens to be in the form of a summon.

encased in statues right? maybe its condensed spiritual energy? primitive raw materia...who knows

the main difference is that the people of FFX are very spiritual and behave in a christian-church-hierarchy fasion
high summoners, corrupt leaders, ect.
the ancients are the same, and prolly wouldnt have changed if the people of spira(mainly al-bhed people) didnt show up
EDIT AGAIN:
I was reading online somewhere that it hints in bugenhagens universe simulator(ffvii) it actually shows spira...
I also formed a pretty cool theory...THEORY
what if..jenova and sin are of the same species but different kinds..like different giant universal viruses eating and destroying lifestream around all the planets

JOKE:
the next awesome sequel to ffvii
watch as sin gets ripped to pieces by cloud n friends >.>

[Zenrot]

AWESOME! cool, see im not crazy. So does that mean that the people of Gaia are in fact decendants of the Spiran people? Also about your theory, don't forget Sin was a summon CREATED by Yu Yevon, he wasn't born in conventional means, while Jenova is a living creature as far as we know.

[lokisenna]

forgot in my excitement =p
true
s'kinda weird how sephiroth is jenova...but thats so far off topic id have to make a new thread to discuss it >.>

I love how well they can meld stories togeather..

oh! im borrowing all her ultimania books to pratice reading/writing japanese
so if I learn anything else ill be sure to tell

[Desert Warrior]

I think that every world in all of the Final Fantasy games are in the same universe, just different planets. By the way, what is the ultimania?

[lokisenna]

not all of them are, or else it would be too messy, one of the appeals of final fantasy are that they all have different plotlines,worlds, and characters
it just so happens to be their in a trend of linking and making sequels and compilations because everyone wants them

ultimanias are..like...superguides to the world and deep concepts of a final fantasy, along with random facts and all cannon information, lots of interviews also
you can find pre-translated versions through google by typing in 'insert FF title' ultimania but i much prefer translating and reading it myself =D