FFX and FFVII Linked?

[Zenrot]

Has anyone else put these two games together and realized that they could very easily be related?

FFX to me is the same world as FFVII but many years into the past. My Basis:

Shinra: Shinra of the Gullwings makes references to learning to harness the power of the planet into energy.

Pyreflies: Pyreflies are what emerge when people die. When the pyreflies are sent they enter the farplane, which could easily be the equivalent of returning to the planet and merging with the lifestream.

Spheres: Spheres are solidified pyreflies. This seems to me like materia, which is solidified mako from the lifestream.

Cetra: The legend of the ancients, or cetra, says that they were the origional inhabitants of the planet. Then Jenova came and "attacked and turned them into monsters". When people die in FFX, their pyreflies become monsters if they arent sent to the farplane. Jenova in this case would be Sin.

Jenova: Jenova looks a WHOLE lot like whom? Yunalesca. And we know that Yunalesca has a deeply rooted connection with Sin.

It's just a theory but it seems like its very possible. State your opinions please!

[EbeneezerAl]

Theyt are some interesting theories, to be sure. But I think you're reading a bit too much into it. I'd put most of it down to coincidence. There are a lot of consitencies between the various FF stories. You could make the same argument of the lifestream for the Cycle of Souls in IX (though as FFIX was made as an homage to it's predecessors, that might actually be an intentional similarity).

There are more things about the stories that are significantly different. The geography is very different. Some of the key locations of FFX are absent in VII, namely the Farplane. No pyreflies are relased from dying enemies in FFVII.

And finally, two of your connections don't work. The Cetra can't simply be the inhabitants of Spira because they were bigger than that. There was more power and significance to the Cetra. And we know that that wasn't a myth either because of Ifalna and Aeris. The other is that of Jenova. In order to make the comparison here, Jenova would have to have been Sin, not Yunalesca. Jenova was a direct enemy of the Cetra, while Yunalesca was simply an obstacle, albeit a significant one.

So again, it's an interesting theory. And it's intirely possible that those were intended as homages to FFVII. But I don't think they're any more than that.

[Zenrot]

Actually the reason I bring this up is because i remember reading somehing about a connection before but can't recall any direct references except Final Fantasy VII Ultimania.

[Kit]

"The game's popularity and open-ended nature also led the director and writer to establish a plot-related connection between Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy X, another popular Final Fantasy title." Direct quote from the FFVII Wikipedia article, under the section titled "Legacy."

[Zenrot]

well, thats wikipedia, so you can't trust that to a huge extent. I want a more credible source.

[Kit]

Sorry, then. That's all I could find on the subject.

[Zenrot]

No, I didn't mean that offensively, im just saying that before I 100% say its true I'm gonna find some more sources.

[Khthree]

wow i must say that is an interesting theory, but id just say is a coincidence as well. but at least you had a well thought out theory hehe.

[Luke]

Im fairly sure that they are the same world.

I was playing my third time through crisis core and i realized that the beach that you beat cissnei on when your on the run from the shinra infantry is the beach where tidus first meets wakka

[Zenrot]

Besaid Beach? hmm, thats interesting. I was putting the geography issue to rest saying that in the time it could have taken to reach FFVII's time it was very possible the geography had shifted (happened to the earth.) How can you identify it as besaid?